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The Drop Podcast • August 7, 2023

The Drop E179 | Dr. Phil Maffetone, Heart Rate Training

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We probably should have had him on a long time ago, but better late than never. Dr. Phil Maffetone is a coach, author, innovator, and founder of the 180 Formula and the MAF test for heart rate training. He’s basically the godfather of the field, which has seen a huge surge in followers over the last decade. He’s also been an advisor to music legends like Rick Rubin, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Johnny Cash, and James Taylor.

In this episode, we talk about heart rate training and its benefits, as well as his new research into music and its affect on the mind and training. This is a long one, but it was a lot of fun and super interesting!

Learn more about Dr. Maffetone’s work.

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The Drop E179 | Dr. Phil Maffetone


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  1. Barb says:

    First of all, I thought it was inconsiderate for him to say (around min 35) that looking around a marathon and seeing all the “fat” people was sad. He’s blaming this all on people not eating well, which I think is very unfair and offensive.

    Also, has any of his discussion on carbs and keto been fact checked? It’s been shown recently in many scientific studies (I am a scientist) that keto shows no beneficial effect on runners, and actually could result in worse times. As I was listening to this, I just wanted to send you a list of studies that I know that go against what he’s saying, and I think its potentially harmful to keep this episode live.

  2. Ellen says:

    I love your podcast but this one was harder to listen to through no fault of your own. Differences of opinions don’t bother me, but Dr. Phil Maffetone came across as especially judge mental when it came to food. It felt that a lot of how he described overweight people or his attitude towards eating a 100% perfect diet was not only judge mental but could be triggering to someone struggling with eating disorders (which tends to be runners).

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